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Listen back to features and interviews from 95bFM's daily news and current affairs show. Castor Chacko, Alex Fox, Emmanuel Orange, and Caeden Tipler focus on the issues of Tāmaki Makaurau and elsewhere in independent-thinking bFM style. Monday-Thursday 12-1pm on 95bFM.

Treaty Principles Bill w/ ActionStation Director, Kassie Hartendorp (Ngāti Raukawa, Ngāti Tūwharetoa): 12th September, 2024

Treaty Principles Bill w/ ActionStation Director, Kassie Hartendorp (Ngāti Raukawa, Ngāti Tūwharetoa): 12th September, 2024 Treaty Principles Bill w/ ActionStation Director, Kassie Hartendorp (Ngāti Raukawa, Ngāti Tūwharetoa): 12th September, 2024, 17.2 MB
Thu 12 Sep 2024

This week, Cabinet reviewed the first draft of the ACT Party’s Treaty Principles Bill. 

The Bill has been met with controversy, with officials warning the government that it “calls into question the very purpose of the Treaty and its status in our constitutional arrangements” and that it could be detrimental to Māori and social cohesion. 

Criticism has also come from Māori leaders saying it could remove Māori from decision making processes entirely, as well as most recently a group of 440 Christian Church leaders signing an open letter asking MPs to say no to the Bill. 

Both National and New Zealand First have said they will not support the Bill beyond the select committee process. 

In response to the Bill, ActionStation Aotearoa has launched a campaign, Together for Te Tiriti, which “welcomes people of all backgrounds who believe that our country is better off when we honour Te Tiriti o Waitangi.” 

Sofia spoke to ActionStation Aotearoa Director, Kassie Hartendorp (Ngāti Raukawa, Ngāti Tūwharetoa) about this Bill, current discourse around it, and ActionStation’s campaign.

The Wire w/ Caeden: 12 September, 2024

The Wire w/ Caeden: 12 September, 2024 The Wire w/ Caeden: 12 September, 2024, 111.28 MB
Thu 12 Sep 2024

Wire Host Caeden speaks to Labour Party Deputy Leader Carmel Sepuloni on the government signalling a shift in their foreign policy stances, the allocation of 6 months in select committee for the Treaty Principles Bill and Bird of the Year. 

They speak to Yale Daily News Andre Fa’aoso about yesterday’s Harris/Trump Presidential debate and Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris. 

And they speak to the University of Auckland’s Dr Tatjana Buklijas about the fast track legislation in a democratic context. 

For City Counselling this week, Producer Sofia speak to Councillor Julie Fairey about how Auckland Council’s celebrating Te Wiki o te Reo Māori next week and Council’s emissions reductions targets

She also speaks to ActionStation Director, Kassie Hartendorp, about the Treaty Principles Bill and a campaign ActionStation has launched in response, Together for Te Tiriti. 

The Fast Track Legislation in a Democractic Context w/ the University of Auckland’s Dr Tatjana Buklijaš: 12 September, 2024

The Fast Track Legislation in a Democractic Context w/ the University of Auckland’s Dr Tatjana Buklijaš: 12 September, 2024 The Fast Track Legislation in a Democractic Context w/ the University of Auckland’s Dr Tatjana Buklijaš: 12 September, 2024, 23.75 MB
Thu 12 Sep 2024

Wire Host Caeden speaks to Senior Lecturer at the University of Auckland, Dr Tatjana Buklijaš, about the fast track legislation within the context of democratic participation on infrastructure decisions. 

The Harris/Trump Presidential Debate and Taylor Swift’s Endorsement of Kamala Harris w/ Yale Daily News’ Andre Fa’aoso: 12 September, 2024

The Harris/Trump Presidential Debate and Taylor Swift’s Endorsement of Kamala Harris w/ Yale Daily News’ Andre Fa’aoso: 12 September, 2024 The Harris/Trump Presidential Debate and Taylor Swift’s Endorsement of Kamala Harris w/ Yale Daily News’ Andre Fa’aoso: 12 September, 2024 , 20.99 MB
Thu 12 Sep 2024

For State of the States, our weekly 95bFM US election coverage, Wire Host Caeden speaks to Yale Daily News’ Andre Fa’aoso on yesterday’s Harris/Trump Presidential debate and Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris.

IRD sharing data with social media firms w Associate Professor in Commercial Law at the University of Auckland, Gehan Gunasekara: 11 September, 2024

IRD sharing data with social media firms w Associate Professor in Commercial Law at the University of Auckland, Gehan Gunasekara: 11 September, 2024 IRD sharing data with social media firms w Associate Professor in Commercial Law at the University of Auckland, Gehan Gunasekara: 11 September, 2024, 8.46 MB
Wed 11 Sep 2024

It recently came to the public’s attention that the Inland Revenue Department had been providing social media firms with the personal details of taxpayers to be used in marketing campaigns. 

While the IRD have tried to reassure taxpayers that their details were anonymised using a hashing process that would replace the letters in their names with numbers, many have raised concerns about the potential privacy implications that could come with their personal data being sold to social media companies, as well as the efficacy of the hashing process itself. 

Wire Host Oto spoke to Gehan Gunasekara, Associate Professor in Commercial Law at the University of Auckland, to discuss the IRD’s selling of taxpayer data to social media firms and its potential implications.

Student pressure leads to University Foundation divesting from Israeli bonds w/ Spokesperson for Student Justice of Palestine Pōneke, Frank Mackenzie

Student pressure leads to University Foundation divesting from Israeli bonds w/ Spokesperson for Student Justice of Palestine Poneke, Frank Mackenzie Student pressure leads to University Foundation divesting from Israeli bonds w/ Spokesperson for Student Justice of Palestine Poneke, Frank Mackenzie, 13.6 MB
Wed 11 Sep 2024

Following a consistent year of pressure, the Victoria University of Wellington has announced its divestment from all Israeli government bonds and shares. The foundation has previously reported having close to $50,000, which they have divested following major Student sit ins and pushback.

The divestment is only the first step in a long process of boycotting Israel, however there is continued student backing and a recent petition attempting to further progress the severing of ties to Israel. 

Producer Sasha spoke to spokesperson for Student Justice for Palestine Poneke, Frank Mackenzie about how continued student pressure led to University of Victoria Wellington divesting from Israeli bonds and stocks.

The Wire w/ Oto: 11 September, 2024

The Wire w/ Oto: 11 September, 2024 The Wire w/ Oto: 11 September, 2024, 102.56 MB
Wed 11 Sep 2024

This week on the Wednesday Wire...

For our weekly catchup, News and Editorial Director, Joel, spoke to The Green Party's Ricardo Menéndez March about recent changes to the treaty principles bill to include acknowledgements to Iwi and Hapu, government pay parity cuts for relief ECE teachers and concerns over Nicole McKee’s gun law reforms.

For our bi-weekly segment Get Action! Wednesday Wire Host, Oto, spoke to ActionStation’s Kareana Kee, about their petition calling for TVNZ to review their coverage of Israel’s war on Gaza.

Producer Sasha spoke to spokesperson from Student Justice for Palestine Pōneke, Frank Mackenzie, about the Victoria University of Wellington Foundation divesting in Israeli bonds.

and Oto spoke to Associate Professor in Commercial Law at the University of Auckland, Gehan Gunasekara, to discuss the implications of the IRD sharing taxpayer data with social media firms.

The government’s new transport plan and the commerce commission’s new annual grocery report w/ the National Party’s Katie Nimon: 10th September, 2024

The government’s new transport plan and the commerce commission’s new annual grocery report w/ the National Party’s Katie Nimon: 10th September, 2024 The government’s new transport plan and the commerce commission’s new annual grocery report w/ the National Party’s Katie Nimon: 10th September, 2024, 14.82 MB
Tue 10 Sep 2024

Last week the government announced its new transport plan, focusing primarily on car and road developments and their flagship ‘roads of national significance’. This focus on roads and car developments has led the government to pull funding from other areas, such as public transportation, walkways, and cycleways. 

Last week, the commerce commission also released its first annual grocery report, identifying issues with a lack of competition in Aotearoa’s grocery sector and increased prices faced by consumers. The report advises that the problems stem from a lack of regulation, which enables the supermarket giants to act as they please. 

This week in our catchup with the National Party, Wire host Castor spoke to Katie Nimon about the government’s new transport plan and the commerce commission’s first annual grocery report. 

Cabinet reviews the first draft of ACT’s Treaty Principles Bill w/ Margaret Mutu: 10th September, 2024

Cabinet reviews the first draft of ACT’s Treaty Principles Bill w/ Margaret Mutu: 10th September, 2024 Cabinet reviews the first draft of ACT’s Treaty Principles Bill w/ Margaret Mutu: 10th September, 2024, 9.39 MB
Tue 10 Sep 2024

The ACT Party’s treaty principles bill was a hot topic during the election campaign last year, and made it into the coalition agreement, with the National party committing to support it to the first reading.

The bill has met controversy since the campaign, criticised by Māori leaders for its potential to remove Māori from decision making processes entirely. Recently, a group of 440 Christian leaders also spoke out against the bill in an open letter to MPs asking them to vote against the bill. 

Wire host Castor spoke to Professor of Māori Studies Margaret Mutu of Ngāti Kahu, Te Rarawa, and Ngāti Whātua, about Cabinet’s reviewing the first draft of ACT’s treaty principles bill and its potential impacts on Māori.

The Economic Impacts of Long Covid w/ Paula Lorgelly: 10th September, 2024

The Economic Impacts of Long Covid w/ Paula Lorgelly: 10th September, 2024 The Economic Impacts of Long Covid w/ Paula Lorgelly: 10th September, 2024, 16.28 MB
Tue 10 Sep 2024

Researchers have estimated that Long Covid could be costing the New Zealand economy $2 billion a year.

The finding follows an Australian study which calculated the economic impact of Long Covid in Australia.

Producer Josef spoke to Professor of Health Economics Paula Lorgelly about the study, Long Covid, and what New Zealand can do about its economic costs.

Dear Science w/ Professor Allan Blackman: 26 May, 2026

Dear Science w/ Professor Allan Blackman: 26 May, 2026 Dear Science w/ Professor Allan Blackman: 26 May, 2026, 19.01 MB
Tue 26 May 2026

For Dear Science this week, our Expert, Professor Allan Blackman, speaks with us about electricity from ambient moisture, bananas in smoothies, and particles to reflect the sun.

Thanks to MOTAT - Home of Powerful Play!

Do we need a bill to define "men" and "women" w/ the ACT Party's Simon Court: 25th May, 2026

Do we need a bill to define "men" and "women" w/ the ACT Party's Simon Court: 25th May, 2026 Do we need a bill to define "men" and "women" w/ the ACT Party's Simon Court: 25th May, 2026, 12.68 MB
Mon 25 May 2026

Last week, NZ First MP Jenny Marcroft put forward a bill that would seek to define the terms “man” and “woman” in law. The bill has been supported by coalition parties through its first reading. Its primary supporters in parliament, ACT and NZ First, say the bill is about prioritising biology over ideology, or about maintaining common sense. 

Its opponents, however, say the bill is unnecessary, and that the ideology pushed by its supporters does not align with evidence. Te Kāhui Tika Tangata, the human rights commission, says that the bill is “not necessary”, and “risks harm to communities who continue to experience discrimination on the basis of their gender identity”. 

Disability Rights Commissioner and Rainbow rights spokesperson at the Human Rights Commission, Prudence Walker, sez the bill will not only “trample on the mana of trans and intersex people”, but it also “attempts to completely erase non-binary people”. 

Despite the strong opposition, the government is pushing for the bill to be considered in select committee. 

For our weekly catchup with the ACT Party’s Simon Court, News Director Castor asked about the bill and why the government is bringing it about.

DISCLAIMER: this interview covers multiple anti-trans talking points, and briefly discusses sexual violence.

You can make a submission on the bill here

Budget Cuts, Public Service Reform and NCEA Changes w/ Labour’s Shanan Halbert: May 21st 2026

Budget Cuts, Public Service Reform and NCEA Changes w/ Labour’s Shanan Halbert Budget Cuts, Public Service Reform and NCEA Changes w/ Labour’s Shanan Halbert, 25.66 MB
Thu 21 May 2026

The Government is heading into Budget week with plans to cut the core public service, and RNZ reports public servants' fears that their jobs are once again on the line. At the same time, questions have been raised over MFAT being spared from cuts, and the Government has unveiled major changes to secondary education through its proposed NCEA replacement.
For our weekly catch-up with the Labour Party, Producer Pranuja spoke with Shanan Halbert about public service cuts, Budget priorities, and what the education overhaul could mean for students and teachers.

City Counselling w/ Shane Henderson: 21 May, 2026

City Counselling w/ Shane Henderson: 21 May, 2026 City Counselling w/ Shane Henderson: 21 May, 2026, 8.64 MB
Thu 21 May 2026

A survey of Automobile Association members' views on time-of-use charging has been presented to the Auckland Council’s Transport and Infrastructure Delivery Committee. 

The survey found that members were open to congestion charging if it worked, even if they thought it was unfair.

Labour leader Chris Hipkins gave a ‘State of Auckland’ speech last week, focusing on the need for cross-party collaboration on infrastructure projects.

Wire Host Caeden spoke with Councillor Shane Henderson about both of these topics.

NZ First, BNZ, and the power of minor parties w/ Green Party MP Ricardo Menéndez March: 20th May, 2026

NZ First, BNZ, and the power of minor parties NZ First, BNZ, and the power of minor parties , 18.29 MB
Wed 20 May 2026

This week has seen discussions on New Zealand Firsts announcement that if they win the election they plan to buy BNZ and nationalise it into kiwibank, a plan some estimate to cost $30,000,000,000 and has been completely ruled out by their coalition partner in the National Party. Despite this, it’s sparked conversations around how we should be engaging with our banking sector, the vast majority of it dominated by Australian owned banks.

And critics fear that National party changes to the accommodation supplement is going to hit poor working families at a time they’re already doing it rough, nullifying other support that they are offering the rest of the country more broadly, repeating a pattern of policies that hurt poorer communities worse than the rich.

So for our weekly catchup w/ the Green Party, Host Manny spoke with MP Ricardo Menéndez March on what impact he thinks will come from restrictions to the accommodation supplement, particularly for the poor, they then discussed New Zealand Firsts policy to buy BNZ bank, and whether minor parties tend to over promise if they are constrained by the major parties who they will inevitably have to work with if they make into parliament.

Social Media Ban, National's Stance on Immigration, and the Upcoming Budget w/ National Party MP Ryan Hamilton: 19 May, 2026

Social Media Ban, National's Stance on Immigration, and the Upcoming Budget w/ National Party MP Ryan Hamilton: 19 May, 2026 Social Media Ban, National's Stance on Immigration, and the Upcoming Budget w/ National Party MP Ryan Hamilton: 19 May, 2026, 13.97 MB
Tue 19 May 2026

Last week, National MP Catherine Wedd’s members bill for an Under-16s social media ban was paused. Instead, Education Minister Erica Stanford has pledged to, before this years election, bring a wider and more robust proposal for a ban in a larger bill.

Last week also saw Prime Minister Christopher Luxon make comments about the National Party’s stance on immigration, amidst criticised changes to compliance officer powers, and previous spats and comments over immigration policy between government coalition partners.

And with the budget expected next week, promises have begun to be made by the government for where funding can be expected, particularly within education.

Host Alex spoke with National MP Ryan Hamilton about these topics, starting with the Social Media ban.

Dear Science w/ Professor Allan Blackman: 19 May, 2026

Dear Science w/ Professor Allan Blackman: 19 May, 2026 Dear Science w/ Professor Allan Blackman: 19 May, 2026, 19.16 MB
Tue 19 May 2026

This week for Dear Science, our expert, Professor Allan Blackman, speaks with us about politics affecting trust in experts, solar events recorded in trees, and drought predictions in Aotearoa.

Thanks to MOTAT - Home of Powerful Play!

The Disestablishment of the Ministry for the Environment w/ Professor Nicolas Lewis : 19 May, 2026

The Disestablishment of the Ministry for the Environment w/ Professor Nicolas Lewis : 19 May, 2026 The Disestablishment of the Ministry for the Environment w/ Professor Nicolas Lewis : 19 May, 2026, 34.01 MB
Tue 19 May 2026

Since 1986, the Ministry for the Environment has been the central policy advising entity in New Zealand for environmental issues. The government has recently proposed the Environment Amendment Bill, which seeks to disestablish the Ministry for the Environment, which would be amalgamated into a larger Ministry for Cities, Environment, Regions and Transport.  

For Green World this week, Wire producer Liam spoke with Professor Nicolas Lewis, of the University of Auckland’s School of Environment, about these proposed changes, how they fit in with the government's current priorities around the environment, and the impact this may have on New Zealand in the short-term and long-term.

Anti-immigration policies amidst overseas anti-immigrant sentiment w/ the ACT party’s Simon Court: 18th May, 2026

Anti-immigration policies amidst overseas anti-immigrant sentiment w/ the ACT party’s Simon Court: 18th May, 2026 Anti-immigration policies amidst overseas anti-immigrant sentiment w/ the ACT party’s Simon Court: 18th May, 2026, 11.64 MB
Mon 18 May 2026

Recent weeks have seen the government adopting a series of policies targeted at immigration. Some of these policies are set to be introduced immediately, while others are proposals for the upcoming election. What all of these policies have in common is that they aim to respond to an idea that there is a subset of immigrants who are making society in New Zealand worse. 

This is a narrative that we’ve seen dominate conversations about immigration overseas, particularly in the United States, United Kingdom, and Australia. It often leads to gross displays of racism, with mass riots and crackdowns on people who have done nothing wrong. With these recent policies and media attention towards the anti-immigrant rhetoric in Aotearoa this month, concerns have been raised over whether those overseas developments could be seen here. 

For this week’s catchup with the ACT Party’s Simon Court, News Director Castor planned to ask about both immigration and the move-on orders for rough sleepers, though we ran out of time to discuss both. They began by asking Simon about the government’s recent stance on immigration.

Politics with Māni Dunlop: 14 May, 2026

Politics with Māni Dunlop: 14 May, 2026 Politics with Māni Dunlop: 14 May, 2026, 9.87 MB
Thu 14 May 2026

The Wire is starting a new segment - Politics with Māni Dunlop for Te Ao Māori News.

We’ll be catching up on the big political issues of the week and goings on in the House from a Māori perspective.

Wire Host Caeden caught up with Māni Dunlop about the new Te Tai Tokerau Party, the Conservation Amendment Bill passing first reading, and the submissions made as part of the Mana Wāhine inquiry this week.